all BS

And do you know how much my kids are going to pay for the War in Iraq, the Bush Tax Cuts, the Medicare RX bill, and all of the other corporate welfare that the republicans have given away for the last 30 years? Well...we're going to change all that by taking YOUR money now. And when we're done with that, we're going to sterilize all male republican right wing nuts so you can never breed again, and impopse your robbery agenda on the middle class workers ever again. Yep, we're bringing socialism to this nation, along with Communism, and the Nazi's, and all the other things your're soooo very very scared of. BE VERY AFRAID!!!! Boooooo!

@ Jr

Got any sources to back up any of that gibberish?

Nope.

Another "duh"...it DOES address the escalating cost of health care...that was the whole point! duh!

@ Dee
So which is it, genius? Socialism or Communism? Why don't you just calm down, turn off FOX NEWS, and find out what the law really all about? http://www.newhealthcarelaw.com/

Absolutely agree.

Jack24 & David Victory:
OB-care does NOT address escalating cost of health care. Read it!
I don't watch Fox News. I wonder, do YOU know the difference between socialism & communism? Or why Dee should have to choose which one Dee wishes to include in Dee's comment? Why don't YOU find out what the Obamacare is all about? I have. Now you do it.
Dee, I agree Obama was NOT interested in any health care reform. He was nudged (not pushed), he gave in, he copped-out for "dreg" (= crap) -- at the expense of the people and freedom. Please don't listen to these morons, who themselves are having trouble putting 2 & 2 together to come up w the sum for which they are hoping.

@ jj

"I wonder, do YOU know the difference between socialism & communism? Or why Dee should have to choose which one Dee wishes to include in Dee's comment?"

Well, it can't be both at the same time, can it?

"Why don't YOU find out what the Obamacare is all about? I have. Now you do it."

It's about:

Children's Pre-Existing Conditions: Under the Affordable Care Act, health plans cannot limit or deny benefits or deny coverage for a child younger than age 19 simply because the child has a “pre-existing condition” — that is, a health problem that developed before the child applied to join the plan.

End to Limits on Care: In the past, some people with cancer or other chronic illnesses ran out of insurance coverage because their health care expenses reached a dollar limit imposed by their insurance company. Under the health care law, insurers can no longer impose lifetime dollar limits on essential health benefits and annual limits are being phased out by 2014. More than 105 million Americans no longer have lifetime limits thanks to the new law.

Curbing Insurance Cancellations: The Affordable Care Act stops health plans from retroactively canceling your insurance coverage solely because you or your employer made an honest mistake on your insurance application.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/healthreform#healthcare-menu

Please get over the socialism nonsense...or do some responsible reading..tell me if you think Medicare and Social Security are socialistic....

please READ THIS before you post again!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/healthcare-spending-countries_n_1388306.html#s825346&title=1_United_States

hmmmm...SUGGEST YOU CHECK THAT NUMBER AGAIN as of 8:33 p.m.!!!!

(A) accelerating our nation debt to 15 trillion dollars. Expect acceleration to increase after 2014 (B) unwillingtaxes small business, expcially the one's your distiguished senator visited this week in NH - they have to pay additional taxes to stay in business (C) ultimately reduces competition by making my existing policy too expensive to keep. employers then pay the minimum penalty to kick me out of mine and force me to join Obamacare (D) This is simply redistribution of wealth and social re-engineering (E) Nov. election will be a referendum on Obamacare. everyone knows that.

Someone has to pay for all these freebies sweetheart. I'm doing my best legally to shield as much wealth as possible so I have the freedom to pay for the health insurance I want. that was possible before this crap-sandwich was shoved up everyone's ass

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! Finally, an INFORMED poster that did not buy all the misinformation spread around by the Republican LIARS.

@ Youcantfool

Your efforts are appreciated. Unfortunately there are imbeciles who think our current system is just fine. 50,000,000 uninsured Americans is ok with them. The majority of bankruptcies due to medical expenses is no problem in their opinion. An evil system that allows the insurance companies to rake in our cash, give their CEOs millions, and then pick and choose what procedures they will cover is great. Stupidity is timeless. Keep putting the truth out there.

@ Celia

"This is simply redistribution of wealth and social re-engineering"

That's what Rethuglicans have been doing for 30 years. Big, juicy tax cuts for billionaires and corporations - the shaft for the rest of us.

"Someone has to pay for all these freebies sweetheart."

Did you know the woman who is challenging the Affordable Care Act already went bankrupt from medical bills? http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/08/nation/la-na-healthcare-plaintiff-20120309

That's why we need "Obamacare", sweetheart.

Meanwhile those 'other' developed countries are moving away from socialized medicine because of the cost, corruption, and rationing. England is a good example of how they are moving back to a US - based plan. Canada as well.....

Wow, another INFORMED poster! We'll be paying for the Bush disasterS for the rest of time!

@ Claudia

Woman, you are SO right. Not only that, Obamacare heals people. War kills people. I'd rather fund the former.

Celia...where on earth did you get this erroneous information. You must have missed (or avoided) Fareed Zacharia's excellent program about international health care compared with ours. It was on CNN a couple weeks.

Well as they say elections have consequences. And the Crap-Sandwich care act will weigh heavily on those who supported or were responsible for crafting it. It was true in the mid-terms. Add his big flub in Libya, the green tech disaster, class warfare, and legislation via fiat, it does not create a positive perception.

YES!!! Another informed poster. This is uplifting to see for sure. People should always INFORM THEMSELVES, by researching the facts they hear in the media...its so easy to do today! Inform yourselves folks BEFORE you vote!

@ Celia

It's going to be a slaughter in November - and you won't be happy.

Go ahead and vote GOP; give them free rein over your uterus.

I suggest YOU read again...its NOW 85 PERCENT that WANT IT! And thats at 9 p.m.

Jim
Join the long list of the uninformed spreading the B.S. myth of "the liberal media".
90% of talk radio is conservative, 75% of guests on mainstream news shows are
conservative, and newspapers have been trending conservative for a long time.
That is aside from "Faux News" and CNN. [The very nature of the question "should Obama-Care be repealed?" is an example of right wing media bias. To be objective the question should have read "do you aprove or disaprove of the Affordable Care
Act?" This right wing bias is typical in other Patch polls as well.] You are either
uninformed or a liar.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1Bx9Ic

Here we go...resort to school yard behavior.

Very well put...but they can't seem to grip the FACTS, and when the facts show how they are misinforming people...they resort to name calling.

And they will never say just why they hate the president...honestly anyway. But we all know why those Obama haters hate him.

very well put. I for one, am tired of going BACKWARDS in THIS country, while the rest of the world moves forward!

I find it AMAZING how many Republicans bash the hell out of Obama for the "mandate"...how many of you that do that, know that the mandate was ACTUALLY A REPUBLICAN AMENDMENT FROM THE 1990's healthcare debate! When Obama endorsed it, they turned around and hated THEIR OWN amendment!!! Do the research folks...look at the Congressional Records! Its all there. He's welcomed soooo many of THEIR ideas, and not just with healthcare...and when he does, they do the very same thing! They RUN as fast as they can from it, and tear apart their own ideas!

Yep, and it gets worse every year. they are not capable of thinking past their noses out of thier own selfish little worlds, let alone thinking about who really pays an E.R. bill when someone doesn't have insurance. Welcome, good luck...and yes they are gun toating, bible bangers...and this is a "stand your ground" law state!!!! DON'T WEAR A HOODIE in NH!!! Especially if you don't have insurance and can't pay an ER bill!

Very well stated..but with more voices like yours we can overcome these radical right wing nuts and start enjoying the beauty NH offers.

@ tyur

Welcome! New Hampshire really is a beautiful state full of good people. Don't let the primitive righties who prowl Patch turn you off.

If someone from ARIZONA [!!!!] is scared of the N.H. right wingers,
that just goes to show just how derailed the N.H. far right has become!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes...and one day too, they will like it. But perhaps not until THEY loose their health insurance, and find out just how expensive it is to go to the doctor WITHOUT health insurance. And when they live in constant pain, day after day, suffering, hour after hour, because they don't have enough money to pay the doctor...they will learn. Someday the shoe will be on the other foot, and they will know the SUFFERING of MILLIONS of Americans! Then and only then, will they be sorry.

I know lots of people whose healthcare has GONE DOWN the last 2 years, while their COVERAGE has gone UP! Also their paychecks have gone UP, not down. Lets keep one thing very clearly in mind...exactly what lead up to the Economic Meltdown of 2008...all that deregulation the republicans did over the years...how did all THAT work out for ya?!

@ buoy

Yep. In some cases the insurance bastards actually RAISED their rates because Obamacare doesn't kick in fully until 2014. There are many good things about Obamacare that already benefit us. Learn more easily right here: http://www.newhealthcarelaw.com/

I have NEVER forgotten, and NEVER will, all the crap that happened thru the ENTIRE BUSH YEARS!

I'm all ears Angela. Tell us.

Yes they do Angela...some people just refuse to see just how much Corporate America costs US ALL.

more name calling. And note the repeating of ABO...their age old tactic...say it over and over and over again, and often enough...and they will believe it as the truth!

@ Jr

What "Obama madness" are you referring to? (I'm not expecting an answer, BTW. We know you can't provide one.)

@ News

"ABO". Clever. Don't strain yourself.

News Flash
Do you copy and paste the "ABO" and then resubmit it dozens of times,
or do you type it by hand every time? I wouldn't want you to strain yourself
doing all those lengthy, deep, intellectual, and informative posts.

Unfortunately they don't seem to be capable of thinking that far ahead. Just in their OWN little worlds. Sad, very sad.

Providing free preventative screenings. Just who pays for all the free stuff anyway. You can't really believe anything of real value is free???

@ Jr

"Just who pays for all the free stuff anyway."

WE DO! We pay insurance premiums, right? Then the damn HMOs can use the $$$ to provide CARE.

Hey look, it's right-wing bigotry! I am so shocked.

I can't tell if you are asking a legitimate question, but here is the answer "concerned citizen."

1) you deal with socialism every day of your life. Public schools, public roads, hospitals, the military(Hey, don't the Republicans own this one? Hmm!), and more. This word has been adopted as a pejorative by the right wing, often flashing images of riots in Greece while saying the word socialism repeatedly to scare the crap out of you! "Government is bad" is a party line, it's not necessarily what happened to our civilization at all. Our nation rose to greatness with the help of great leadership. It certainly didn't magically happen from disparate tribes located around the country.

2) The European problem is located around the euro currency. If you take a look at Norway, which does have "socialized medicine," it's one of the best places in the world to live and not in crisis.

3) be concerned about any attempts by the right wing to blame the poor for crisis. After Wall Street took us for a ride, why is it we are now blaming the poor for healthcare? Who exactly should we be looking to reign in: cancer patients or white-collar scam artists and speculators?

Concerned Citizen...we're moving towards a system they have had in Switzerland for YEARS. And its NOT a government healthcare system...its all PRIVATE INSURERS.

@ Concerned

You are uninformed. They do have the same coverage. You can bet your last dollar that they don't get yanked around by their insurance companies the way the rest of us do, though. So "the rest of the world is looking at getting away from socialized medicine"? Can you tell us more about that?

@ News

"Nothing is free"

No $h!t?

"In its Health at a Glance 2011 report, the OECD shows that the United States spent about $7,960 per person on healthcare in 2009 – approximately 2.5 times the average of the countries studied."

We pay a fortune for health insurance now - most of it rotten, with big co-pays, deductibles and "bridges". Those that can't afford it are forced to go without altogether. They seek medical attention in the emergency room after a condition that could have been treated early has become a crisis. If they can't afford the big bills they go bankrupt - and the rest of us absorb the cost anyway. Know who laughs all the way to the bank?

Cigna CEO H. Edward Hanway earned annual compensation of $17 million, and exercised stock options worth just under $1 million.

Humana CEO Michael McCallister earned $3.1 million, with exercised stock options worth more than $11 million.

Aetna CEO Ronald Williams earned $8.17 million, and exercised stock options worth more than $5.4 million.

WellPoint CEO Angela Braly earned $9.1 million and exercised stock options worth more than $1 million.
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/on-call/2010/08/20/focusing-on-health-costs-a-close-up-look-at-health-ceo-salaries/

Know who enables them? You.

Yea, and i'm the tooth fairy :)

Who out there DOESN'T support all these things? Tell me...do people actually love their healthcare insurance companies, so much that they are willing to continue their abusive practices? If people would only try to read the facts of what the bill actually does, they would be far less likely to be against it. How many out there that oppose the healthcare act, have actually read the bill?

@ Tonto

"Yea, and i'm the tooth fairy :)"

Don't believe it? Why don't you find out? Burn a few calories looking for information that isn't on FOX, Newsmax, drudge, etc. Pretend you're an investigative journalist and need to get the facts.

AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS THAT CONTROLLED THE CONGRESS IN THE 90'S AND AGAIN UNDER BUSH THAT DID ALL THAT DEREGULATION OF THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They just refuse to see just WHO was behind the deregulation that ALLOWED all that to happen!!!!!

@ Jr

"Liberal politics that said all people must be treated equally in mortgage applications."

That's crap. "Liberals" never said banks should hand mortgages to people unable to make payments. If you have proof of that, provide it. Glen Beck's blackboard hasn't done you any favors.

Interestingly enough, without that misinformation machine you speak of, this would be an easy election. The facts support this presidency and the affordable care act. Only fear and loathing can stop it.

salem mom,

They all lie -- per LJoel Hackbart link: www.alternet.org

"By the way, the rest of the media was not blameless. CNN and the broadcast network news operations fared only slightly better in many cases. Even MSNBC, which had the best record of accurately informing viewers, has a ways to go before it can brag about it."

Hilltopper,
That is true. Other news operations are not blameless. They also have a
corporate media slant. Even MSNBC will fire talk show hosts if they they
don't walk the line and go too far to the left.[Keith Olbermann,Cenk Uygur, Phil Donahue] I hope I don't have to tell you they pale in comparison to "Faux News" however.

They would pay about the same the church does in taxes.

@ Bob,

It would be subsidized. How would you, Bob, pay for health insurance without an income? If you were out of work, wouldn't you be grateful that, at the very least, wouldn't lose your insurance?

Chrystal,
First, let me give you a tad bit of praise before I blast you too much.
Unlike the majority of right wing crazies that polute these pages with
silly one sentence junk soundbites, you offer a substantive, complete
and polished looking argument, and that is a refreshing change.
That said, I cannot disagree more with your comments and conclusions.
The Massachusetts health care law is unquestionably not a failure.
98% of the State's people are now covered and cost containment figures
seem to differ greatly with your claims.
As for the national "Affordable Care Act" cost containment measures are
to be enacted to prevent insurance company abuses. Apparently,without
realising it, you are making a great case in FAVOR OF the preventive care
measures in the A.C.A. [ You also should be a big Michelle Obama supporter who
is promoting diet and fitness on a grand scale and has been nothing but demonized
by your fellow conservatives} I should also point out you pay far more in total
costs for other unheathy people in the current system than you will when the
A.F.C. is fully enacted.
www.americanprogress.org/events/2011/04/masshealth.html

CHRYSTal: Should I pay for the drug addict, the drunk, the nut that jumps off a bridge bungie jumping, the person that skydives, the person that surfs with sharks, the person that wants to have unprotected sex, the person that likes to play with fireworks, the person that wants to skateboard off of roofs, the person that doesn't wear a seatbelt, the person that doesn't keep a proper sleep schedule--ALL of which have been known to cause sickness and injury...WHAT IS THE CUT OFF POINT FOR "LIFESTYLE REGULATION?"

Should I also pay for other people's kids to go to school? I pay to the tune of thousands of dollars for public education, and I don't have any kids. If you want to go to a tribal system, let's just call it what it is. Or you can accept that society has certain illnesses and certain costs, and we have decided to go collectively to a better future.

The problem lies in the irresponsibility of too many people and too many handouts being provided with no recourse so lets just let everyone get a free ride for everything and be accountable to no one for anything. Doing what I do i see so much waste I cringe. I also see way too many people abusing the system. If they would make all the people receiving all the "free" services have some sort of a tax impact maybe i would be fine with also having to provide them with healthcare. Watching people soak of the system and claim poverty and get tax dollars back every year burns me. I see people receiving section 8 housing, free childcare, food stamps, free healthcare for their children and then because they have low W2 they they get an EIC. And of course the father of the children is illegally living with her and was able to scam his way onto permanet disability. If the value of all those things were added to the persons wages they are making more than me, which is why we commonly see so many "poverty" stricken people dressed to the nines driving aronud in their escalades and navigators. So when they tighten those reigns let's talk. If i wanted to live in a society of handouts i would move to Lawrence.

Jack24:

Do I think we should cover drug addicts and alcoholics. Nope. I believe in the natural selection process. if you want to waste your life and be a burn out then do it and let your demons kill you and we naturally weed out those that don't belong. all the drug dealers and addicts would be taken care of and maybe the eyes of the "maybe" people will open. I shouldn't have to be ID'd to buy Claritin for my congestion and then be limited to one purchase at a time. If they want to make meth then let them. We shouldn't constantly be restricting the majority's freedoms because a minority can't make a wise choice. I don't want you to construe that to say that i think that all uninsured are theses people. Two separate gripes. Does go hand in hand with my "gov't assistance" gripe below.I believe that insurance companies have issues, but just the same the physicians offices are just as corrupt in certain cases. There are definitely problems, i just don't see this as being the solution especially at the price.