Frightening... does anyone else see it?

Frightening? Really? Frightening that young people are finally - FINALLY - looking up from their cellphones and iPods to look at what's going on around them? Frightened that their rights are being shaved away or concerned about the state of the nation, the national debt that they have to pay or the foreign escapades that they may have to fight and die for, that have led to thousands of our citizens dying and millions of global citizens dying for basically nothing?
I'm in my mid-40s so while I've been around, I haven't been around forever. But I personally find it inspiring to see young people getting involved at this level, not only with Ron Paul but also the other candidates like Jon Huntsman and Occupy too. I saw this with Jerry Brown in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000, young people getting excited about something more than themselves regardless of the odds of winning. It's not frightening at all.

It makes sense: the baby boomers stiffed the young people (and by this I mean anyone really under 45). DNC-AARP want to take every penny and give it to themselves and have the young people pay for it. The GOP-AIPAC is a contest about how many young people to maim for their parochial interests. The only "idealist" thing Obama can lay clam to is ending don't ask - basically he ran out of pawnshops next to which to put an army recruiting office...

I am 54 years old and I can proudly say that I am part of The DR RON PAUL Revolution.
I initially was apolitical back in Sept. 2011. I really wasn't that familiar with RON PAUL 2012. I just say The Man's honesty.I've learned a lot since then,I thought,My ego thought I was making a President.I found through RON PAUL:Direction;Focus;Higher Power;Spirituality;Economic and Foreign policy.I may just be one of His troops,But I "REFUSE TO LOSE" "DISRUPT THE CORRUPT" "BE NOBLE NOT IGNOBLE".
GODSPEED DR RON PAUL.

To say we don't know what we want or why we want it is quite the slap in the face, we KNOW A LOT more than most because of Dr. Paul.

@Jan... the youth of this country knows that Ron Paul is not a racist... see "The compassion of Dr. Paul" here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4 We know that Ron Paul has FORESIGHT that ALL of the others lack completely, see "Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions all come true" here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0 And we also know that he has the BEST Foreign policy that all of the Foreign Policy experts agree with and that can be seen in this video, "You like Ron Paul except on Foreign Policy" here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug We have found a LEADER who says what the rest of the bunch won't, who tells us the truth even when it's ugly because it's what we NEED to hear. I am sharing these videos with you to help you understand this is how WE all came to know about Ron Paul, and this is WHY we want him. You can't take sound bites of pieces of what he said and then apply blanket statements to his views. We want RON PAUL 2012, and nothing... nothing will change our minds. The GOP better think long and hard about this because there is no way they will win the Presidential Election with out us. We were at 5-8%... then 10-15%, (those were our "ceilings" that couldn't be broken remember?) Now we are at 20-25%, where do you think we are going from here? I can tell you one thing for sure, we ARE not going away and we are not voting for anyone else other than Ron Paul. Snub us... and lose your GOP spot in the white house in 2012.

I have to laugh here at Jan. I'm not "Y", not a bit scary, and I'm Ron Paul... known about him since 1980. Most of his supporters are VERY MUCH more informed than most other candidate's supporters (at least that is what the press tells me). Establishment republicans have no clue about the Fed or why it must be challenged.

Jan, he would do all the same capitalistic things that the other R's would do to encourage the private sector to create jobs. Sounds like you have never even listened to one of his speeches or read his policies clearly stated on his website.

Fact is, YOUNG PEOPLE are waking up to the fact that the FED and their endless wars are what is bankrupting their future. They know banker backed candidates like Romney and the others will do NOTHING to save the selling out of America. They don't want to be in debt for generations. They know the two party system is used to control us.

Ron Paul is the only conservative in the race... he's the tea party personified. He was the grandfather of the tea party in 2007. He understands the constitution and states rights and diplomacy.

He's the ONE! (PS your veiled reference to a certain dictator was not lost on me. Because Paul would LIMIT the powers of government he would be the MOST likely to PREVENT any one class of people EVER being demonized again!)

as far as unemployment... think about when he brings all those troops home from all across the world and those troops whose salaries are paid with US TAX DOLLARS are re-infusing them into our economy and housing market. They need houses, food, and have children too that go to school and need clothing, doctors, etc. Every part of our economy would be boosted simply by bringing them back home. (Grocery Stores, the hospitality industry, the housing market, etc.) Instead of us blowing 1 trillion every year over seas that money would be HERE. AND THEN he would remove all of the disastrous regulations that currently prevent small business owners from opening up shop. The tax rates would be more inviting for businesses to come here, come back here, and stay here. He would let the free market work, I don't understand why people are SO AFRAID of welcoming back the very thing that made this country what it once was.

It's not about ME ME ME, it's about USA USA USA. If you can't understand the simplicity of bringing 1 TRILLION US TAX DOLLARS back here and spending it to build our nation up rather than destroy other nations and murder and maim all their people... Then we really can't help you. We are so selfish because we want to stop the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians across the world! We are selfish because we want to stop the very same thing happening to our brothers, sisters, cousins, husbands, and wives! Who is selfish here? The one who sits in total ignorance of what their government is up to over seas because it doesn't affect their lives directly so they need not think about it... or the ones who SEE what their government is doing and tries to stand up against it because it's wrong? Selfish people say, "I don't care what happens over seas as long as it doesn't come here. As long as it's not here I don't have to think about it." Meanwhile innocent women, men, and children fear for their lives under blankets of bombs dropped by DRONES. Yes, this ignorant little selfish Paul Bot is very upset with all of the drone attacks on Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, and Syria. She also takes issue with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan... and she has a real problem with the US EMBASSY in Baghdad that will only incite further hatred against us from our middle eastern brothers and sisters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3e3g-8hHAw There's one more video for you.

You don't speak with any facts, just fears... I have provided you with factual videos to help you understand and either you didn't watch them or ??? So Jan, let me ask you... HOW DO WE FIX UNEMPLOYMENT? What is the man that you are gunning for going to do to make a positive lasting difference? How is he so different than the man that's in there right now?

And I figured this was obvious, but think of how much more demand their will be for people to work back here when all our troops are here. They WILL STILL BE TROOPS, getting paid with US TAX DOLLARS... they will still be in the military! But they will use their income to buy goods and services here that will require more Production, more JOBS will become available. More houses will be bought, more property taxes would be paid... is it really that hard to understand?

Hey Jan,
You seem to have a lot of questions that people are courteously answering - do you care to propose anything yourself? For instance, what to do about the debt or unemployment?

haha..... that's funny! I can imagine her facial expression is much like that of my friends when I SHOW them in black and white from various credible sources how Obama is the same. This one, he actually said that Obama has to take all the money from the bad guys so he can stay in his power and that Presidents don't accomplish a lot while in their first term, because they want to be re-elected to a 2nd term... so they only "stick it to the man" in their second term. I was like what????? Really? This is your great Leader? I point out how he has continued Gitmo, begged to stay in Iraq, bombed 4 additional countries and is a lot like Bush was... and they come up with some other irrational argument about how it's okay when Obama does it. For the life of me, I will never understand! Either Bush was right about all his militarism, or Obama is just as wrong... hmmm?

Oh and all the money under the bail out that went to foreign banks??? All the tax payer money...... a large amount of it even went to Libya before we bombed the heck out of them... well that's okay too! It's okay that our government is indirectly funding Iran's nuclear weapon program and it's going to be okay when Obama says that we have to bomb them because they have or may have a nuke. (Look at all this stuff this little ignorant Paul bot knows... frightening isn't it?) People don't understand that the FED and the Military Industrial Complex go hand in hand. They don't get the reasons we were taken off the Gold/Silver standard by past Presidents was solely to be able to print money out of thin air to fund these hellish wars. While all of this has been going on for decades, our dollar has been losing more and more value. Now everyone wants to know why there's no money? Where did it go? What is this debt crisis all about? Not paying attention to what our government has been up to and the consequences of such said actions is going to keep a lot of folks scratching their head for some time to come.

Sorry for not answering. I have a life, and believe it or not it matters more than you folks who aren't here to listen.

Paul is a Randian Libertarian who would destroy what's left of our country and send it back hundreds of years. His followers are limited by their lack of empathy and their willingness to be satisfied with a limited source of information.

If you could show me one country where his brand of me-me-me has been successful - or if you would prove it by starting your own country and making it work? Then you would have something to discuss.

You still completely DODGED the question! (wonders if you are a politician yourself?) My question to you is How do you think your concerns for our country can be resolved? And by whom? You're concerned with unemployment... anything else? How do you propose we get on the right track?

And as far as having a life, all we have to do is click on your name to see the DOZENS of other stories you are commenting on today. I, on the other hand, am SNOWED in and essentially bored out of my mind, and you are there for my entertainment purposes. Both of my 2 jobs and my college night classes are closed due to the weather.

You are missing the point entirely, it's not "me me me", it's the USA USA USA and the constitution that worked in this country for decades upon decades. The founding principles of this country have been slowly being eroded away for the last 8-9 decades and that is why we are in the mess we are in today! Can you see the forest instead of the trees?

And my lack of empathy? Are you serious? I don't want any of my tax dollars being used by our government to continue to murder and maim countless civilians and US Soldiers in countless countries around the world. Apparently, you do not have a problem with that. Where do you stand on that issue?

Bring me some facts please, not more opinions based out of fear. Other wise, you will deem yourself irrelevant as well as incapable of cogent debate to any on looking readers. BAM!

Jan, you are a person who sure does love asking questions that are hypothetical. Here's one for you, what happens if Romney/Obama wins and spends even more of our money on wars and banks? What happens when we live in a country where every year our freedoms grow smaller and smaller as the governments powers grow larger and larger?

Ron Paul WON'T solve the economy. NO MAN can, it's too complex. But, when the economy crashes, it will rise anew and strong. Unless you'd rather have hyperinflation and keep America on it's Rome-like death march.

Ron Paul, a patriot, who has honorably served his country, defends both the constitution and

civil liberties, and is for peace and prosperity. Dr. Paul has the wisdom, foresight,

honesty and integrity to be president.

Dr. Paul believes spending and deficits are destroying this country. Dr. Paul's budget plan

would save $1 trillion in the first year. Besides the spending cuts, there are other issues

of importance to voters. For conservatives, Dr. Paul scores an A+ on all of them: Second

Amendment protection, pro-life record, right-to-work, pro-business, anti-tax, states'

rights, you name it.

Dr. Paul also believes America should have the strongest national defense on earth — which

he believes begins with not trying to constantly police the earth. Right now, our

government puts our best and bravest in harm's way on a regular basis for questionable

reasons and with no discernible notion of victory. This is not supporting the troops. It's

abusing them. Dr. Paul wants an end to this absurd, costly policy.

The voters have declared Dr. Paul the alternative to the liberal, flip flopping Mitt Romney.

The other candidates are simply irrelevant. In the New Hampshire Primary, Dr. Paul received

more votes than all the supposed Anti-Romney (Santorum, Gingrich, and Perry) candidates

combined.

People who support Paul support him for one very good reason, personal responsibilty. See people like Jan like being told what's right an what is wrong because it requires less work, she is a follower not a leader. War doesn't bring peace, laws don't make you safer, government won't help you. Only you can make your home safe only you can bring about peace and only you can help your self. Liberty is being free not being told how to be free.

Libertarianism, at its core, is about caring only for those things that extend to your property line. A libertarian cares not for anything beyond that line and expects others to do the same. It is distilled selfishness. Let's extrapolate.

Ron Paul does not need to care about the troops. The bottom line is that military intervention affects the bottom line, which means taxes. That is offensive to a group of people that only care about themselves. If they really respected individual liberty, they would respect the choices of those who choose to fight at the behest of their leaders. When you join the military, you convey your willingness to fight (put aside illegitimate reasons to fight for a moment). That is personal liberty, and sometimes it is a selfless act.

Libertarianism cares not for the quality of your water supply, the quality of your food supply, or the welfare of your community. It extends beyond their property line, so therefore, it is unimportant. The bare minimum necessary to protect personal property and the right to do whatever you want is libertarianism. Ayn Rand exemplifies narcissism and self-centeredness, and that is where a lot of Ron Paul's ideas came from. If you want to be a Paulbot, you should look into Ayn Rand and learn about her. You will be surprised at what you find.

Libertarianism has most recently latched onto "founding fathers" syndrome, where they relentlessly cite our original leaders in the hopes of triggering nostalgia and nationalism. However, this discussion begins and ends at pontificating about what our founding fathers might do and ignores what they *did* do. The Constitution was amended 27 times over the course of its lifetime, and it began with assigning a list of rules by which we would adhere. That's right- rules. Some of these rules have evolved with the times and are meant not only to provide liberties to the people but to govern their behavior with others. It has been said that Ron Paul would allow lunch counter discrimination if that is what the free market decided because the government would not control the behavior of its people. But does that reflect our nation? Does that reflect our national leaders in history? Does that reflect the people we want to be now?

Libertarianism's greatest folly is ignoring the world around them. Nobody is an island, and everything you have today was built on the shoulders of giants that came before. Your regulated public school, your regulated infrastructure that created roads and more, your regulated drinking water, your regulated medical, and the regulated science and technology industry. By working together, we have done some incredible things.

Libertarians must realize why those around them do not like Ron Paulbots and their ilk. We respect each other. We want to be neighbors with each other. When we see someone down and out, we extend a hand. Even beasts can work together. If you want to be selfish, pardon us for returning the favor and being just as uninterested in your opinions as you are of the world around you.

If you want to have a discussion from here on out about any of Ron Paul's ideas, let's do it. But don't bring out 10 different points in one post and say- in your trademark Ron Paul caps lock- "SEE?" Oh, we see it, and it's repulsive to people raised to be decent to each other. Pick one of your ideas that you wish to defend and let's talk about it. Game on and all that.

Finally, I noticed that some people in this thread are trumpeting their own reasons to post walls of text and disparaging others for "not having a life" or whatever; guess what, you're not special. We all have lives. We all have things to do. When we feel like posting or communicating with each other, we do. It doesn't mean you're unemployed, it doesn't mean you need an excuse, it doesn't mean you're not allowed… We all have just as much right to be here. So, carry-on Paulbots.

You know the great part about people like myself and others in this thread? Even for a libertarian down on their luck, we will still be there to lend you a hand if your son is born with debilitating illness or you are in danger of your heat being turned off. Because that is what people who are decent human beings do for other people.

Good day.

Try this definition on for size, "Libertarianism is a vision of how people should be able to live their lives-as individuals, striving to realize the best they have within them; together, cooperating for the common good without compulsion. It is a vision of how people may endow their lives with meaning-living according to their deepest beliefs and taking responsibility for the consequences of their actions." I own myself, I am responsible for myself, I take good care of myself so that I may be of use to the greater good, which is all of humanity. I have fed the homeless and I will again, I have helped drug addicts find reform and paid there way to do so, I have participated in many charitable acts at my place of worship. I have lent my hand and heart to help the physically/mentally disabled. I classify myself as a libertarian and I do not represent any of the "selfish" attitudes you have presented above. I am that "decent" person who would never turn her back on your drug addicted child or turn her mind away from the endless wars that are murdering and maiming innocent people across the world.

"The philosophy of Liberty is based on the principle of self ownership. You own your life. To deny this is to imply that another person has a higher claim on your life than you do. No other person or group of persons owns your life. Nor do you own the lives of others.

You exist in time; future, present, past. This is manifest in life, liberty, and the product of your life and liberty. To lose your life is to lose your future. To lose your liberty is to lose your present. And to lose the product of your life and liberty is that portion of your past that produced it. A product of your life and liberty is your property. Property is the fruit of your labor, the product of your time, energy, and talents. Property is that part of nature which you turn to valuable use. Property is the property of others that is given to you by voluntary exchange and mutual consent. 2 people who exchange property voluntarily are both better off or they wouldn't do it. Only they may rightfully make that decision for themselves.

At times some people use force or fraud to take from others with out voluntary consent. The initiation of force or fraud: To take life is murder. To take liberty is slavery. And to take property is theft. It is the same whether these actions are done by one person acting alone, by the many acting against the few, or even by officials with fine hats.

Problems that arise from the initiation of force by government have a solution. The solution is for people of the world to stop asking officials to initiate force on their behalf. Evil does not arise only from evil people, but also from good people who tolerate the initiation of force as a means to their own ends. In this manner, good people have empowered evil throughout history.

Having confidence in a free society is to focus on the process of discovery in the marketplace of values rather than to focus on some imposed vision or goal. Using governmental force to impose a vision on others is intellectual sloth and typically results in unintended, perverse consequences. Achieving the free society requires courage to think, to talk, and to act—especially when it is easier to do nothing."

THAT IS WHAT LIBERTY MEANS, not what you have twisted it into my friend.

What has Ron Paul actually advocated? Ron Paul advocates the Golden Rule for all associations we make with others in life. As neighbors, as parents, as business owners, as employees or employers, as members of a local community, or a national community, or an international community, treat others as you want to be treated. Ron Paul has led by example as a physician. He treated patients with out insurance or money. He never took money from the government. Did you hear the story from James Williams who came forward to share his appreciation for Ron Paul with the country? Mr. Williams and his wife were being racially discriminated against because of their bi-racial relationship and the hospital they went to for her labor and delivery would not treat her. Dr. Paul found out about this man and his wife and stepped in to deliver the baby. The baby was still born, and Dr. Paul told Mr. Williams that he would take care of the entire bill. The story is here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4 How you can say that Dr. Paul advocates selfish behavior is beyond me, this story alone is a compelling example of compassion and empathy. Hope this helps you to get your facts straight. It is painfully obvious that you don't know the first thing about this man and his history.

I'd just like to say that I'm 19, not 18, as the article states. I am a sophomore at Gettysburg College, and was doing campaign work in NH. Keep your eyes on our movement, because we are causing changes in the political dialogue.

You copied and pasted from Ken Schoolland (next time you should cite your source) and completely dodged what I presented, which is what libertarianism is about. And you hit on a couple things which are just rephrasing what I said. For example, your copying his comments on having your behavior be compulsory. And this is where you get all wrong.

There is nothing more enjoyable for a libertarian than saying "I have a right…" and declarations about being sovereign. This is usually followed by comments about owning yourself and frosted with a side of Constitution (just to make it sound legitimate). It reminds me of a child who stamps their feet in rebellion against their parents.

Every day of your life, you must follow some set of rules. Everything from the side of the road you drive on, monetary transactions, how you interact with others, and so on. Even if you were to live off of the grid, there are still rules. Mother nature has rules on what you can and can't do, your interaction with other species, physical laws, and more. The idea of somehow owning your own ship and controlling your own journey forgets the ocean you sail on and the other travelers alongside you. You are not an island, and you never will be. Your behavior is compulsory in so many ways.

Foisting your political system on a population makes your entire argument hypocritical. How can you run on a platform, pretend you are part of the Republican Party (since when has the Republican Party embraced Ron Paul?), and then make those belief systems nationwide?

The reason that there are compulsory taxes and benefits for folks who need them is because most people have a tendency to hoard their own wealth. There are various reasons for this, obviously. While you and others like myself may contribute to charity, it's not enough. The reality of our country is that certain people are on the top, certain people are on the bottom. Folks on the bottom, some of them can't eat unless others share food. Some of them don't have a roof. I'm sorry it's such a burden to require a tax to keep the roads repaired, schools, lights on, and more, but this is a choice made by a group of people that decided they want to create a country for everyone. For libertarians to come along on the same ship and stamp their feet, can you see why it makes others irritated? It's not that they want to dictate your life, it's that we have a community here, and that's more important than selfish motives.

Add on top of that Ron Paul crowd crazy talk like getting rid of the EPA, free-market determined racism (remember the lunch counter comments, the newsletters?), sticking your head in the sand while uncivilized countries make war beyond their maturity level… I could go on… it makes everyone else on the ship find the entire group annoying, lacking in empathy for the people around you, unrealistic, and a vote for allowing folks with money to oppress other people (if that's what the free market determines!).

Finally, please remember your participation on this ship is permitted because of the freedoms that were earned by those who came before. You are not alone and your behavior is compulsory in everyday life, no matter where you are or who you are. Instead of having a tantrum over feeling controlled, I have a suggestion. I'm also an independent personality, you know. The best thing that you can do is figure out how to reach your full potential without ruining other people's lives in the process.

2 things... I never got my cookie, and guess what??? There are many people in this country that are embracing Ron Paul's message. Don't worry, we're not going anywhere anytime soon. Thanks for all the input! The EPA raises the levels of what is acceptable toxicity. The FDA tells food manufacturers what amount of bleach they can pour on our food. The Dept of Education, since it got all wrapped up in every public school system has not made education better. As a matter of fact, we're lower in every area since they got their hands all over it. We're on this ship together, and I can see that it's being driven into an iceberg while you stick your head in the sand. Listen, if you really like a socialist country where the government pretends to take care of you from the cradle to the grave, how about moving to one instead of forcing a large portion of Americans into living in one here? You keep thinking you're taking the high road, when the very things you are accusing me of, (forcing you to live with a government system you want no part of) you are completely guilty of! I don't need nor want the government all over every aspect of my life! I don't want the government taking tax dollars away from me to bomb innocent women and children in other countries.

Go talk to Elizabeth Warren about "others that came before us". I'm sure she'll eat up every last word of what you're selling. The others that came before us were my Grandfathers who both fought in WW2, (one also was in Korea, and Vietnam as well.) My father who served in the Marine Corps, my stepfather who served in the Army... my husband who served in the Army and went to Iraq. Me... who worked with our troops day in and day out training them for "peace-keeping" missions in Bosnia and Kosovo. What contributions have you made to society other than running your mouth here? You're probably the first in line for a hand out, and the first in line to volunteer other people to go to war when you are not feeling safe here at home. THAT IS WHAT IS ANNOYING.

And I have NO PROBLEM paying taxes to keep the roads good and to keep the schools open. If our tax dollars were used solely to benefit this country, I'd happily pay more. The problem is that the taxes are USED to pay interest to the FED for the loans we take out to bomb and destroy other civilizations on this earth. Anyone denying the plausibility of that makes them willfully blind. Social programs are not the problem... our foreign policy is. The current POTUS made campaign promises to end all this garbage with foreign policy, then he got in there and continued every erroneous policy from Bush. We can not trust the government to do the right thing by us and the rest of the world. We are still in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have predator drone attacks killing women and children in Libya, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. The average American does not hear about those stories though because they get their news from the MSM. The MSM does not cover these stories and shed real light on them because the citizens of this country would be (at least I hope) outraged for these actions. Instead of helping us "realize" the real lies by showing us what's really going on, they pit us in arguments over social programs like welfare. It is perfect for continuing these asinine ways because the majority of the people will just eat all of that up and not look at what is really going on. Parroting "others who came before us" lines makes you feel humanitarian? Good for you! Go eat a cookie.

There it is, the Paulbot meltdown. This is what happens when you actually start talking about the meat of the issues. You see, it sounds good and it feels good to say the word liberty 50 times a day, but when you get down to the actual content; you start talking about things like the EPA, and the Randian libertarianism falls apart.

Your objection has to do with bleach? If you don't like some kind of bleach content, why aren't you asking for bleach regulation? To throw the whole thing out because of some byline of a magazine article that you read who knows when and who knows where, it's nonsensical. It doesn't help your argument.

For example, we have several water bottle companies who test their water when they feel like it. The regulation by the FDA is done once every three months or so. Compared to your city water, which is tested multiple times per day, how safe is that? Do you feel better knowing that Nestlé is testing your water and not telling you about it? That's Ron Paul's world, where the free market determines everything. It's nonsensical, and if you're going to make criticisms of watchdog groups, you might want to consider what your alternative is. What you're selling is a lot worse than some byline about bleach.

Your other criticisms, the Department of Education, public schools, so on and so forth… You are doing exactly what I said you would do. The shotgun approach: where you just shout out 200 different items without having a clue about any of them, specifically. If you want to have a discussion, if you want to actually talk about issues, pick one and talk about it. You can't have a conversation when as soon as one of your fears is addressed, you dodge to the next one. That's what all Paulbots do. Be better than that.

The rest of your paragraphs are all emotional drivel, nothing to talk about. If you want to discuss libertarianism, discuss socialism, or any of the topics you presented, by all means. But I would wait until you calm down a little bit.

Laughable that there is a melt down here. What am I dodging? All through this thread my MAIN problem has been Foreign Policy, and you took it upon yourself to ATTACK me for remnants of this and that, to try to change the conversation to what you think it should be about! Do I get emotional about our situation here in the USA, you're damn right I do. I am a human being with a heart and soul and I look past my own property line and across the ocean to see what our government is doing to this world, and to our troops. I get emotional when I see children dying because we are dropping bombs on them. I get emotional when I see a troop who's missing an arm or leg, or who is burned beyond recognition. I am a human being, a mother. I have a soul. You don't want to criticize our government for anything. (at least it appears that way) Maybe you don't know what they have been doing, and maybe you are too scared to look because if you did look, you would see what I see, and you would have to do something. I want to know, do you agree with us bombing Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen? Do you agree with us staying in Afghanistan? Do you agree with President Obama begging to stay in Iraq? Do you agree with a billion dollar embassy being built in Baghdad with our tax dollars instead of that money being used to educate our children here? Do you agree with the sanctions on Iran? Do you agree with our involvement in Uganda? Do you EVEN KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THESE THINGS?

and FORTHEPEOPLE... what people are you for???? The average lazy apathetic ignorant American who sits on their couch all day and gets all riled up about TERRORISM and how our government should go send hundreds of thousands of troops to die for them while they watch it all on t.v. from their safe little couches? You are an ignorant American. If you are not ignorant to these things, then you are a cold hearted selfish person who only cares about what happens outside your front door. FORTHEPEOPLE my @ss!

Pitching a fit won't help you. I have asked you to narrow down a topic, and I guess you choose foreign-policy, but you are unable to get specific. If you reread your posts, you are having a fantasy in your mind about what *I* think, and then declaring it to be fact. Reread what you wrote. It's an emotional meltdown that starts off with sarcasm, reaches a crescendo as your fantasy gets out of hand until you are reaching for the caps lock button. How are we to have a rational discussion if you create this imaginary battlefield where everyone who doesn't like Ron Paul is somehow the enemy? How is that intelligent? Here's an idea, ask me one question, and I can answer you- in detail, even. But this shrill temper tantrum isn't how you do it.

I also wanted to call attention to some of your own thought patterns. I think it's important to read what you wrote- all of it- and notice a few things. You tend to have this emotional roller coaster as you're writing. Most of your ideas aren't even your own- they're copied and pasted from others. You haven't taken any of the ideas you have presented from start to finish. Instead, you announce some opinion as fact, some accusation as fact, and then you parrot something I said to make it your own. Even silly things, like cookies. I'm drawing your attention to this because I think that you need to look at your emotions and see if they are preventing you from not only communicating with other people but tinting the glasses of your politics.

Ron Paul isn't a holy figure. Some of his ideas are quite rotten. The mark of obsession is someone who tries really hard to make everything their leader says into Scripture. Fascists and nationalists do the same thing. You need to be really careful with this kind of emotion that you have and how you latch on to the people you admire. It will prevent you from having your own ideas. It will prevent you from having differing opinions. It will prevent you from critical thinking, which is most important.

Part of this is probably the fault of most education. Taking tests and regurgitating answers doesn't make you smart, and it won't liberate you. It will get you a piece of paper so you can get employed, and that's all it will do. The best parts of education and what you should be learning is how to think critically, do the research, and come up with your own words on a topic. You won't find that copying and pasting from other people's brains. It will make you a fine Paulbot, though. That's one of my complaints that I've stated more than once; his clones are really good at regurgitating but not so good at the genesis of ideas.

The best education you can have is to read- a lot- from multiple sources, including sources you don't like. Come up with your own ideas. As an exercise, pick one thing about Ron Paul you don't like, just to prove to yourself that you are your own person and your politics are truly your own. Keep your admiration in moderation. Be aware of obsession. When communicating, try not to view it as yourself against the world. I'm sure we actually have a lot in common although you would never know it because you came in with guns blazing from your very first post.

A lot of people think that the world is stupid, that only they have the answers, that only the truth lies with their opinions, but this is an illusion. Only by thinking selflessly will you be able to understand the truths of other people's lives besides your own.

Finally, going to answer one of your questions, "what people are you for????" That's the thing, I don't specify. There's a reason for that. I'm for "the people", not for "the ____ people."

Still didn't answer one of my questions.

Specifically.... I asked these questions (you perfectly dodged them all by talking in circles about how I need to reevaluate my thought patterns and myself.) "I want to know, do you agree with us bombing Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen? Do you agree with us staying in Afghanistan? Do you agree with President Obama begging to stay in Iraq? Do you agree with a billion dollar embassy being built in Baghdad with our tax dollars instead of that money being used to educate our children here? Do you agree with the sanctions on Iran? Do you agree with our involvement in Uganda?" And please enlighten me as to what the ? stands for in "the ______ people".Answers please? You must have an assumption about the person I am including the color of my skin and the income in my bank account. Stop projecting what you think you know on to me. You have not presented 1 Fact in all of your diatribes aimed at discrediting me, you have given nothing but assumptions and your own opinions. See: "If I'm a lost soul looking for something to do, somewhere to go, something to believe in, the Ron Paul crowd (and also the Free State Project) provides... A libertarian cares not for anything beyond that line and expects others to do the same. It is distilled selfishness.... That's what all Paulbots do. Be better than that." I can take an example of your opinions from every piece you wrote, but not 1 fact. Lets converse the way you deem correct, I picked 1 topic foreign policy. Lets discuss w/ facts now.